Wellbeing Interview: Julia Jones and Shauna Reid

A few days ago marked exactly one year since I headed out for my first training run with Up & Running, an online coaching programme for aspiring runners. On a whim I had signed up for U&R’s first ever 5k programme. Little did I know back then how important U&R, and the fabulous women behind it – Julia Jones and Shauna Reid – would become for me. U&R re-ignited my long lost passion for running and has seen me running consistently, and loving it, for a whole year. Unbelievably, thanks to Julia and Shauna and the amazing community that they have created, I am now six weeks away from running my first half marathon. I am delighted, and incredibly honoured, that this dynamic duo agreed to be interviewed. It’s the perfect way to celebrate an amazing year of running!

Coach Julia, as she is known at U&R, (an American living in Italy) has been training runners for over ten years, has authored a bestselling book, and even has a running festival named after her! She has, herself, run an incredible 33 marathons and completed numerous triathlons as well as a half Ironman. Julia is everything a coach should be and more – inspiring, motivating, strict but caring, committed and dedicated. Oh and she really knows her stuff!

Community Director of U&R, Shauna, (an Australian living in Scotland) is known for her hugely popular health and wellness blog ‘The Amazing Adventures of Diet Girl’ as well as her book of the same name. Shauna’s mission at U&R is to encourage, inspire and support each and every person who signs up. You couldn’t ask for a more helpful, encouraging, inspiring, warm and caring supporter. Somehow Shauna manages to make you feel as though you are the only person on the programme.

I recently watched a documentary about The Beatles during which Paul McCartney likened each Beatle to one corner of a square, each making a unique but essential contribution to the whole. It seems to me that Up & Running is much like a triangle with three such corners – Julia, Shauna and the community of fellow runners. Thank you Julia and Shauna and everyone at U&R!

What does happiness mean to you?

Shauna: Happiness is having a purpose, creating things, having meaningful work to do. It’s also feeling connected in my relationships and generally feeling foxy.

Julia: Feeling light with work done on time, moving my body in any way, knowing my children are healthy and happy, spending quality time with my husband, sunrise, creating something I’m proud of.

What and/or who inspires you?

Shauna: People with passions. Whether it’s my husband and his homebrewing obsession, or Julia and her running, or a chef geeking out about the perfect ingredients, or a busy mum writing at midnight when her kids have gone to bed, I find people identifying, exploring and carving out time for their interests to be the most inspiring and sexy thing in the world.

Julia: I get inspired by looking at what other people create, usually in an art form. I also get truly inspired by words (books lectures) and powerful nature like oceans and the immensity of mountains.

What would be your perfect day?

Shauna: It would start with a pile of French toast festooned with bacon and maple syrup. Then I’d look out the window to see oh my goodness, I seem to be in some amazing private retreat resorty kind of thing with a big clear lake and wildflowers and cheery birds. And I don’t have hayfever. I take a swim, then I get an amazing massage, then I head into town for an intimate-but-rockin’ Radiohead concert avec backstage pass, then I go out for a mind-blowingly tasty dinner. Then I am magically transported into an enormous bed with cosy sheets with a good book and a cup of hot chocolate. Hopefully my husband will be up for tagging along the whole day.

Julia: Early wake up, a walk on the beach and dip into the sea, a nice breakfast with a morning newspaper, four to six hours of intense working on any project in progress, a nap in the afternoon, tea, a run that lasts about an hour and a half, an evening spent with my family. (This is how a lot of my summer days play out  so I feel pretty lucky!)

Do you have a favourite place or environment where you feel most at peace?

Shauna: Anywhere near water. Or in a library.

Julia: Any place in nature, Mount Tamalpais and Muir Woods where I grew up, or Firenze in Italy. Any beach in the world.

If you are feeling stressed or anxious is there anything you do that you know will make you feel better?

Shauna: Either wrapping my hands around a hot cup of tea, or going to bed. A cup of tea in bed, even better.

Julia: When that happens I make a list for myself of all the things that need to be done to clear my mind. Sometimes it’s a long list but if I even get two or three items checked off I can feel myself calm down again.

What worries you most about the world?

Shauna: I worry about the environment. Wildlife, climate change and the amount of stuff we consume. On one hand I go around switching off lights and fishing people’s Starbucks cups out of the trash and putting them into the recycling bin (I’m known as the Recycling Fascist in the office). But on the other hand I travel quite a bit, which is a zillion times worse for the planet.

Julia: The environment and world pollution. Combine that with politics and ignorance it’s just a recipe for disaster.

What makes you most hopeful about the world?

Shauna: That there are brainy and/or creative folks out there actively trying to make things different.

Julia: That there are still people that think “differently”. Sometimes I even run into one or two!

What, if anything, would you like more of in your life?

Shauna: Silliness.

Julia: I would love more time.

What, if anything, would you like less of in your life?

Shauna: Mundane administrative tasks.

Julia: Less laundry!

What’s the best piece of advice you have ever been given?

Shauna: My grandmother once advised me, “Never marry a man with greyhounds”. I have no idea why she said that but it cracked me up as a ten year old. Seriously, I love what my kickboxing coach always said, “Get comfortable with being uncomfortable”. I’ve learned that there’s a difference between pain and discomfort, and that you gotta ride through initial discomfort (for example, when doing something new, like running or writing a book) because that’s when real growth and groovy things start to happen.

Julia: I was working for Avon Running in Italy in 1999 and we were hosting the “World Championship” that year. Kathrine Switzer was the program director for Avon International and had come over to make sure everything went smoothly. I was really stressed out about how things were shaping up and I think I was freaking out a bit on race morning. I remember asking her something at breakfast and she looked me straight in my eyes and just said “Buck up, Julia”. It was very effective! Ever since then whenever I find myself whining on about something I just say that phrase to myself.

Shauna, what are you most drawn to in Julia?

Shauna: I love Julia’s attitude to life. She’s daring, open to new experiences and doesn’t worry about what others think. She is also a woman of her word – if she says she is going to do something, she just does it – no fuss, no excuses and no faffing around. As a result she has a had a rich and interesting life. She has a mysterious voodoo power to inspire the people around her to dig deep and make more of their own lives. I know I’ve been more bold and brave since we started working together, purely by osmosis. 

Julia, what are you most drawn to in Shauna?

Julia: I think Shauna is just one of those people that has a natural charisma that draws you in. Being with her makes you just want to be with her even more. She’s brave and isn’t afraid to experiment. I also want her hair, love that colour!

Photograph: Shauna (left), Julia (right)

Wellbeing Interview: Gill Stannard

As a long-standing client of herbalist and naturopath Gill Stannard, I was thrilled when Gill agreed to be my second interviewee. Gill’s clinic, City Natural Therapies, is in Melbourne where she has practiced for over 20 years. In her own words, Gill “likes to cook and eat tasty healthy food, inspire people to listen to their body and is often seen petting felines in the street”.

I first saw Gill over eight years ago and I have been a client and reader of her monthly newsletter ever since. It is Gill’s down-to-earth practical style, combined with her warmth and compassion, that I love. I always learn something new when I see Gill and leave feeling more grounded and inspired. Before a trip home to Australia, Gill is the first person I book in to see. Thank you Gill.

What does happiness mean to you?

Moments of total calm, experiencing just being. I’m happiest most when I’m truly in the moment.

What and/or who inspires you?

As a young girl I learnt about Emmeline Pankhurst, one of the original suffragettes. I’ve been outspoken about and prepared to fight for what I believe in ever since.

What would be your perfect day?

One that has the space for the unexpected to happen. Oh, and I’m a sucker for a lazy picnic on a sunny day and beaches with vivid sunsets.

Do you have a favourite place or environment where you feel most at peace?

I find the New Zealand bush both calming and exhilarating. There’s something about the shades of green from all that rain and the ferny aroma that resonates with my kiwi soul.

If you are feeling stressed or anxious is there anything you do that you know will make you feel better?

A hug from my partner, a smooch with the cat, pottering in the garden, a chat with my best friend, repeating the Buddhist maxim “this too shall pass” and if all else fails – playing Marvin Gaye’s “Sexual Healing”, very loud. I find it impossible to not get up and dance to it and forget everything that’s worrying me.

What worries you most about the world?

The shortsightedness of politics and capitalism.

What makes you most hopeful about the world?

The Occupy Movement. There’s an up and coming generation who care enough about the world to want to change it, and are brave enough to stand up and be counted. Last year, through Occupy Melbourne, I met so many extraordinary 20-somethings who turned the Gen Y stereotype on its head.

What, if anything, would you like more of in your life?

Meditation, bushwalking, travel, laughter and time with friends. Fortunately, all of this is achievable.

What, if anything, would you like less of in your life?

Being plugged into the grid, computers, phones and all those other gadgets we think we can’t live without.

What’s the best piece of advice you have ever been given?

Don’t be afraid of making a fool of yourself.

Wellbeing Interview: Kate James

I love reading interviews, especially interviews with people who are insightful, inspiring, caring and down to earth. So I thought it would be fun to see if I could, from time to time, interview people I admire, people whose approach to life inspires me. I was, therefore, absolutely thrilled when Kate James of Total Balance and The Change Project agreed to be my first interviewee!

Kate’s areas of interest and expertise include helping people find meaning and direction in their lives, mindfulness and stress management. Kate also teaches meditation and runs a meditation retreat in Byron Bay that sounds absolutely wonderful.

Meeting Kate in person was a real highlight of my recent trip home to Australia. Kate was as warm, open, thoughtful, inspiring and intelligent as I thought she would be. I came away from meeting Kate feeling energised and enthused. I hope you enjoy Kate’s responses!

What does happiness mean to you?

Happiness means connecting with the people I love, having a beautiful (but simple) place I can call home, doing work that I’m passionate about and taking care of my wellbeing. To be honest, I feel pretty blessed with my life and can’t imagine being happier.

What and/or who inspires you?

I’m inspired by creative, courageous people. People who think beyond boundaries and who are courageous enough to agitate for change in the world.

What would be your perfect day?

I wake early to a clear blue sky and walk along the beach with one of my daughters before meditating, working from home, having enough time to do some writing and cooking something gorgeous for dinner with my family. The weekend version starts with breakie in bed with Chris!

Do you have a favourite place or environment where you feel most at peace?

We go to Wilson’s Prom (southern Victoria) each year and stay in one of the eco cabins and we spend our days walking and taking photos. I always feel completely restored after this.

If you are feeling stressed or anxious is there anything you do that you know will make you feel better?

Exercising and meditating are mainstays in my life – I don’t think I’d stay sane without either but it’s equally important for me to have some time to myself each week as well as time to be creative.

What worries you most about the world?

Before I started meditating (nearly twenty years ago now) I worried a lot – about all sorts of things! These days I worry so much less but the things that concern me most are world poverty, the environment, the rise of mental illness, world conflict and the impact it has on innocent people and the widening gap between the ‘haves’ and ‘have-nots’. I’m pretty open-minded politically – I understand that we need to balance human rights with economic decisions but I strongly believe that every individual has a right to decent food, water, shelter and medical care. Even in developed countries we have made it difficult for some people to access these things and I wonder how we have managed to get things so wrong.

What makes you most hopeful about the world?

Every day I meet people who give me hope. My clients are always inspiring, intelligent people who want to create positive change in the world. They are thoughtful, sensitive and creative and they care about the things I care about like taking care of our planet and making a difference in other people’s lives.

What would you like more of in your life?

Right now – more time and a few extra days in the countryside. I absolutely love my work but right at the moment I’ve got a little more on than I would ideally like. One day we’d love to have a place out of town that we could escape to every second weekend.

What would you like less of in your life?

You know, I can’t think of anything. Which makes me incredibly lucky, I know.

What is the best piece of advice you’ve ever been given?

Be authentic. There is only one version of you and all you ever need to be is that person.